“We simply need that wild country available to us, even if we never do more
than drive to its edge and look in. For it can be a means of reassuring ourselves
of our sanity as creatures, a part of the geography of hope.”
—Wallace Stegner's Wilderness Letter, December 3, 1960


Adirondack Wild:
A conversation with Paul Schaefer

This 1993 conversation between Friends of the Forest Preserve founder and 20th century wilderness pioneer Paul Schaefer (1908-1996) and Kathy Hargis is one of the best interviews Schaefer ever gave during his 66-years of protecting and extending the Adirondack wilderness. Just 30 minutes in length, Paul speaks of his childhood, his early explorations, his apprenticeship as a carpenter, his encounters with conservationists John Apperson and Howard Zahniser who inspired and who partnered in his wilderness advocacy, and the founding of the Association for the Protection of the Adirondacks which Paul served as vice president for forty years. The flame of Adirondack and national forest conservation history burns brightly in this unique oral history. Adirondack Wild: Friends of the Forest Preserve owes Kathy Hargis much gratitude for her permission to feature this rare interview with Paul. Kathy is a retired music teacher, one of the founders of the Adirondack Curriculum Project, and a past Trustee of the Association for the Protection of the Adirondacks.



The mission of Adirondack Wild: Friends of the Forest Preserve is to advance New York’s ‘Forever Wild’ legacy and Forest Preserve policies in the Adirondack and Catskill Parks, and promote public and private land stewardship that is consistent with wild land values through education, advocacy and research.

Top left Mink Pond, Minerva © Ken Rimany; Loon ©Ken Rimany

Peter Brinkley, Honorary Chair
Terry Jandreau, Chair
Kenneth J. Rimany, Partner
David H. Gibson, Managing Partner
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